The Sons of Elias Goddard (circa 1795-1844)

As our cousin pool begins to grow, thanks to DNA testing. we are making some headway in who matches whom.
Myself and my close cousins are descended from John Willis Goddard born 1837 on the (banks of the) Arkansas River in Cherokee territory.

We know from John Willis’ death certificate that his father was called Alias (we believe this to be Elias-they were not good spellers) and his mother was Mary, and we assumed she was a Willis due to John’s middle name. That’s where we started.

John Willis kept a diary during the tumultuous time of the Civil War, which I think started when he met his 2nd wife, Hannah Parilee Gibson. It’s obvious that he was smitten with her, and there are bits of detail that indicate he had to take the lumps that came with the relationship when his wife found out he had a girlfriend down in the woods…
In the diary, John mentions sister Isabella (who married Theophilus Hinch) and C.J. Wyatt, and there is/was a family bible belonging to Clarinda Jane Goddard Wyatt that indicates birthdays, and some relationship to John and Isabella. It is not extremely clear if she’s their full sister or not but we believe she is due to census records and her date of birth (1824).
We also knew from family lore that John Willis knew about a family member (we were told aunt) who lost horses to the Confederate soldiers in the Civil War and could not get compensated for them afterwards from the government. So John Willis was aware of family in Georgia.

For many years, I did not want to go farther back in my research on John’s paternal line, partly because it’s super fuzzy with little and confusing documentation, and partly because the man we suspected of being his grandfather (spelled Goddart in the 1820 census, so that was another reason to question it) owned slaves.
That is a hard pill to swallow, and definitely indicates that he was of a slave owning mindset…although I am not 100% sure that those weren’t family members-but there are categories for slaves and “free colored” and nothing is marked in the later category. More on that another day. But suffice it to say that I’m positive that Elias Jr’s wife had African blood…so how they rationalized slave owning, I don’t know. It was common for people with Native ancestry at that time to own slaves. That’s the last place I thought I would find them in my tree, but there it is.

After much brainstorming with one cousin, we’ve come to the conclusion that the three Goddart men in 1820 Morgan Co. GA and our Elias Goddard must be connected-this must be the same family-mostly because we think all Goddard/Goddart/Gothard folks in North Georgia at that time were part of a large extended family with the Sr. Elias also possible being one and the same man as John A. Goddard (who married Winnie Tidwell. More on that at a later date as well…)

But assuming that the two Elias Goddarts in Morgan County GA in 1820 ARE our relatives, let’s dig deep into Elias Sr., Elias Jr. and his sons.

In 1820 Morgan Co. GA there are three men named Goddart, listed as heads of household. They have to be Elias (the father) and his two sons, Thomas and Elias Jr.

Thomas we will save for another day, as his household is complicated and can be interpreted many ways…

1820
In one household we have Elias Sr. age above 45, a wife also over 45, one son 16-26, and two daughters, 10-16. In addition there are two male slaves and four female slaves. (Ages on census).
In another household is Thomas, and in the third, is Elia (assuming this is Elias Jr.) and his bride. They are young-born 1794-1804.
We believe they married in 1819 in Morgan Co. GA.

1830
Jump to 1830 and there are more Goddards in the state. There are a swath of them in Butts, Pike, Jasper and Jones county, and how they related, I don’t know. They could be sons of the older Elias, extended family or they could be completely new families. I do know that there was a large Goddard family that was selling slaves along the coast of SC and GA and also a family making rum in Barbados. There could be some connection, but possibly not…

There is one Mary Goddard in Jasper County GA in 1830 as the head of household with 3 boys and four slaves (a woman and three children), but I don’t think that’s her-partly because she has African ancestry, but mostly because Elias is in Hall County in 1830, just inside Cherokee Territory at Baldridge Creek, and is listed in the census with what looks to be a wife and three children, so I think THIS is them. Screen Shot 2018-11-19 at 11.15.42 AM

The categories show one son under 5 years of age, so born 1825-1830, one son born 1820-1825 and one daughter born 1825-1830 (Clarinda was born in Nov. 1824) and the female adult is age 30-39 (so born 1791-1800) and the male as well. We think Mary was born in 1801 so this is basically “close enough” for both of them.

Elias Goddard that married Nancy Russell (who we are pretty sure is Elias and Mary’s son, because his descendants match Willis as well as Goddard) had a major problem throughout his life with how old he was, giving wildly different dates, but we think he’s born 1810 to 1815..so that is early to be one of these boys, but it’s also possible he was old enough (he’s be AT LEAST 15) to be off working, hired out or somewhere in Cherokee territory where he wouldn’t be counted, or may just be a tick mark with another family, like possibly William…I think that Willis Goddard is probably the one listed as being age 5-9 and that means there could be another boy…There is also an enlistment record for five Goddard boys (Cousins?) signing up at Ft. Gibson, Indian Territory in 1841, and so I think it is possible that Elias and Mary had one other son.

 

1833-Removal Records, Party of 6

Removal records show that Elias (total removing 6 people) and family (including Willis’, Daugherty’s and McClures-all related) removed from Baldridge Creek (at least one document says Baldwin) which is right smack in the neighborhood where John Goddard was, married to Winnie Tidwell, who had been married to “Young Deer” a full blood Cherokee… (See map below for place names). This area is on the NW side of Lake Lanier, on what then would have been two tributaries of the Chattahoochee river.

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So it is pretty obvious that Elias and Mary had at least three sons and one daughter BEFORE removing to Indian Territory.  John Willis (my ancestor) and Isabella came in 1837 and 1835, so after they removed.

We know that Willis Goddard’s grandson Albert immigrated from GA to the Cherokee Nation around 1885, and there exists a photo of Willis’ daughter, Adecia Sedora who, to me clearly looks like there was some African ancestry further back in her tree. That fits with her being the granddaughter of Mary Willis, who we know also had white, Native and African ancestors.

Since we know there were more sons, and we know that Elias (m. Nancy Russel) and Willis have descendants with Willis and Goddard DNA, it’s a good assumption that these two men are sons of Elias Goddard/t who is listed in 1820 in Morgan County GA (the junior one) and in 1830 Hall Co. GA.

 

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Update and Direction

As I said in a previous post when I started this blog it was to have a public way to share some common ancestors, family stories and photos with new cousins I’ve found. Since then my work with genealogy and genetic genealogy has blossomed and grown in several directions.
I find myself helping people within certain groups or forums, and I love spending part of my time showing others what I’ve learned.  I work less now on my own tree because I’m left after 11 years with only the mysteries that will not reveal themselves, not even with DNA. It infuriates me that I can’t get any further, but I’m hoping eventually the right cousin will test and one of the great mysteries will be solved. (Elias Goddard and Mystery Elizabeth #1 and #2 I’m talking to you!!).

As I also said in that previous post, this journey of learning who my ancestors were has  become more and more a spiritual one. And that continues to deepen for me.  Even more so now I believe that the more we know and understand our ancestors, the more we know ourselves.
And I’ve found kindred spirits in that thinking.  Daniel Foor, PhD has written a book called Ancestral Medicine: Rituals for Personal and Family Healing a book that takes learning about yourself and your ancestors to a deeper level.  No this is not some “woo-woo” new-agey stuff, this is real and practical. Foor is a doctor of psychology and licensed marriage and family therapist, who has studied with several different cultures that still have active ancestor practices. Dr. Foor has gone on to train others in these practices, and they are now teaching and working with people on line and in person all over the country. And his online course has been a deep dive into this work that I find invaluable to my own journey.
So I will be continuing the work I started with him. It’s definitely a beautiful way to connect with Ancestors.

As I learn and grow as an amateur genealogist/genetic genealogist and help others, I’ve started to have a lot of people tell me I should teach.  I’m not sure I’m ready (or terribly qualified) to teach to the general public, but especially for those doing “Ancestral Medicine” work, I might just do that.  I’m in the process of creating a course (although it’s going to take a lot longer than I thought) that speaks to the basics for people who are doing that sort of work.

One other direction that I hope to take this blog and my course in, is to help, or at least shine light where I can, on the “white-washing” and downright racism within genealogy. OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA

The more I realize which of my ancestors were not classified as “white” the more I see how much some people and even paperwork totally denies anything but whiteness and privilege in American genealogy.
More and more we need to face some hard facts about Americans and their DNA and paper trails. Many, if not most of us in the US are mixed ethnically. If you can’t handle that, you are either in deep denial or very, very white, which is very, very RARE in America. If all 64 of your 4th great grandparents have stellar genealogy records dating back to the 1400’s then congratulations, you’re white as hell. But most of you won’t be.

DNA shows things what people would rather hide and I’ve already run into a multitude of ridiculous excuses why the DNA is wrong.  And paperwork can be tweaked, certain facts excluded to deny the ethnicity of people. After a while you begin to see patterns in genealogy work. And yes, there  are those out there trying to destroy those indications of non-whiteness. They lie, they change facts and they may even do this for profit-because they are selling books. It happens.
So anywhere that I can attempt to learn about People of Color and the obstacles they face in trying to research their ancestors, or help with ethnicity reports that really do show our ancestors ethnicities, I will be doing as much as I can to point out that People of Color really do exist historically and their descendants have as much right to know their true histories as anyone else.
For full disclosure, no, I don’t know all of the variety of historical experiences of other cultures/peoples. Yes, I am identified by others as “white”, and yes, that comes with privilege. I believe that just as being much more aware of anything that falls outside of rich, wealthy and white is the focus of our future in politics, it will also inform the way we think about history, genealogy and ourselves. To put it bluntly, when someone who identifies as white finds out they’re not so much, it changes the way they see and treat others. And I’m very passionate about helping with that where I can. This is part of how we get rid of racism.

Yes, ultimately I may find a few naysayers on my new directions, and you may find this blog is not for you. If that’s the case, no problem. To me taking my journey to these other levels and in these new directions has been a gift-a way to reconnect with the people who make up my blood and bone. A way to heal the injustices of history and to move forward, knowing the truth of our history and who we are.

#NotAtRootsTech

I just learned about a big conference in Salt Lake City UT called Rootstech, and while I’d love to go, giant rooms full of people are not my thing, SO you can attend from home!

Here are a couple of links on how to watch some of the content including Henry Louis Gates Jr.’s keynote.

Family History Fanatics “RootsTech Streaming Schedule and How to Plan Ahead” and Family Search’s blogpost on “How to Participate Virtually”.

And if you really want to get in the flow and chat with others during the livestream, use #NotAtRootsTech on Twitter.   See you in cyberspace!

Naming Conventions

Sometimes in doing genealogy research it helps to know what you’re looking for in a family line. Names, and the patterns in naming for one.
In some societies there were rather strict rules as to how one named one’s children.
Some of these were drastically different than what you find in America today.
Knowing about these can be a great help in identifying who matches who, but can also be confusing, like when siblings name their children after each other. If you have 8 children having 8 children, that’s 9 people in one three-generation family with the same name!
I’ve gathered together some links from other places on different groups and their naming conventions. Click the links for more details.

Mostly today in the US you find First name, Middle Name (maybe two) and Surname-meaning the last name of your father. Sometimes a Mother’s surname hyphenated with a father’s. 

But in days gone by, things were different in different places.

In Germany, there would be sometimes 3-4 middle names, many times the first name for all of the sons would be the same and they would call them by one of their middle names. 
 18th Century PA German Naming Customs
18th Century PA German Nicknames

In Mexico, frequently people went by both the mother’s and father’s surnames, but it’s complicated. While most present-day names are taken from the parents’ surnames, historically the surnames might have been those of a more notable family member, or even grandparents. See this link for more details.

The UK




The Scottish, especially those in America, would use the wife’s maiden name, or her mother’s maiden name as a child’s middle name, which can be a great help if you can recognize it.
Traditional Irish Naming Patterns

Africa
Naming conventions in Ethiopia and Eritrea

Scandinavia
Norwegian
 Naming Patterns
Another link to Norwegian Naming info

Scandinavian in general

Icelandic names

Jewish
The Laws of Jewish Names

China
Chinese naming conventions

Russia
Russian Naming (PDF)

Eastern Europe
Eastern Slavic Naming Customs
Hungarian Personal Names

Native American Tribes
Please bear in mind “Native American” is not one thing, not one tribe or culture, but MANY. So each tribe may have specific naming traditions.
General Info
Northern Plains
Navajo & Sioux
Cherokee

If I didn’t cover it here, you can pretty much just Google _____ naming conventions
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The 1831 Voters and Can They Be Identified

This has been copied from two other webpages word for word, in an effort to make it more accessible. No infringement is intended.

based on an original transcription by Renee’ Gore
I think it would be an interesting project to identify these men and learn more about them. As I find notes or remember records, I will add notes here. If you want to contribute please send your email to mflp@aol.com and identify them by  1831vote – (their number) .   All notes are by Donna unless otherwise specified.

Harnage, Ambrose
List of White men with Indian wives  Harnage, Ambrose lived Long Swamp
Prescribed Oath List  wife 5 children
1830 Gwinnett p. 374
It is interesting that the election was to be held at Ambrose Harnage’s house but he didn’t vote. Tate, Pickens County, GA was originally called Harnageville, after Ambrose Harnage, in whose house the early court was held.

1 . ? , Nathaniel G. (possibly Nathaniel G. Henderson)   LINK

2 . ? , William (will we ever know?)

3 . ALLISON, David
Prescribed Oath List  md 9 children

Continue reading

Eleanor Allen Schrepel-From Ireland to the Mormon Promised Land

Eleanor Allen Schrepel

I am so excited that I found a photo of this woman!  This is Eleanor Allen, who married John Frederick Schrepel in 1865.  Their daughter Louisa Schrepel married John J. Downer their son John Albert Sr. is my Grandfather.
She was a Mormon Pioneer and part of the Martin Handcart company that walked 1200 miles from Iowa to Salt Lake City Utah and nearly didn’t survive! Continue reading

The Long life, three wives, and fake death of Elias Goddard

See PDF link below for timeline. DNA has proven the link between descendants of his first family and descendants of his 2nd family.
I have had this theory for several years now, due to the little overlap in where Elias was in Indian Territory and his slightly younger 2nd self in GA.  I guess the promise of a 14 year old wife at age 38 was enough to make him leave his first family behind.

Elias Goddards TIMELINE Condensed2016

Elias’ son, John Willis Goddard, b. 1837.
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